Latest word on DR-16-0014

[MURATA Makoto]

Although I do not think that random numbers provide the only way
to avoid collisions, I agree to mention random numbers in  the note.
How about

  , for example by generating random numbers

at the end of the existing note?

Regards,
Makoto

2017-06-27 6:32 GMT+09:00 Francis Cave <francis at franciscave.com>:

> I will have to defer to greater minds than mine on this question. However,
> it seems to me that Courtenay is wrong: an rsid doesn’t have to be
> completely randomly-assigned, so long as the seed is unique. A combination
> of MAC address and current universal time would, for practical purposes,
> provide a reasonable guarantee of uniqueness.
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> *From:* Rex Jaeschke [mailto:rex at RexJaeschke.com]
> *Sent:* 26 June 2017 21:57
> *To:* SC 34 WG4 <e-SC34-WG4 at ecma-international.org>
> *Subject:* FW: Latest word on DR-16-0014
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> Feedback from the submitter. Rex
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> *From:* Courtenay Inchbald [mailto:c at inchbald.com <c at inchbald.com>]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 26, 2017 7:49 AM
> *To:* Rex Jaeschke <rex at rexjaeschke.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Latest word on DR-16-0014
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> Dear Rex,
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> Thanks for the update. I presume that the text you are proposing is the
> final version in the document, i.e. the edits to my new short version, not
> the edits to old longer version. If so, I have no objection to the rules. I
> am sorry my enquiry created so much work.
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> However, I must point out that if you do not specify random generation of
> Revision Save IDs in the second rule, some readers will presume that there
> is some way, or that they should devise some way, of checking all branched
> copies of a document, or a central database of their Revision Save IDs,
> before generating a new Revision Save ID. Since this is not practical, the
> only way to minimise the probability of a duplicated Revision Save ID is
> random generation from the values not already listed in the rsids element.
> Any other method will not minimise the probability of duplication. I make
> this point because, in my experience, even some of the best-educated people
> are easily confused by probability.
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> On 26 June 2017 at 08:01, Rex Jaeschke <rex at rexjaeschke.com> wrote:
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