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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Hi Shawn,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I
think that would be great to test it on Thursday. I did notice the 1:1-chat
feature but I couldn’t get the “shared notes” to work or even post one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>…
but that might be caused by me not being used to using the service.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jesper Lund Stocholm<br>
</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#363434'>c</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>i</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#363434'>ber</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>
Danmark A/S</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Shawn Villaron
[mailto:shawnv@microsoft.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 28, 2009 8:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jesper Lund Stocholm; Innovimax SARL<br>
<b>Cc:</b> e-sc34-wg4@ecma-international.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: SC34/WG4 Test of Live Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I
see. I certainly don’t mind the quiet talk, especially if it helps us
make progress.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>There
are two features in Live Meeting that could be useful for this context. I
just tried both using the Java web client; I assume that the rich client as an
equal, if not better offering.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>There is a 1:1 chat
available; bring up the attendees list, select the person you’d like to chat
with, and you get a classic, private IM window between the two of you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The shared notes pad can be
used to write notes that you’re comfortable with everyone seeing. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Perhaps
we could give these two features a try on Thursday? If they don’t work,
we could pursue a separate IRC-like chat technology.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jesper Lund Stocholm
[mailto:jesper.stocholm@ciber.dk] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2009 10:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shawn Villaron; Innovimax SARL<br>
<b>Cc:</b> e-sc34-wg4@ecma-international.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: SC34/WG4 Test of Live Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Hi
all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>An
IRC-like chat enables ”quiet talk in the background” but without the intrusion.
During our last Teleconference I was on Messenger with a couple of other
attendees sharing links and small comments. I think it would be valuable to
have a “conference-wide chat” enabled e.g. in one side of the screen. I thought
“Shared notes” was just that, but it seems it is only for the
presenter/conference-manager to write in this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I
should note that I have not tried this before on a teleconference, so I don’t
know if it scales.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>PS:
If “quiet talk” is a bad word for meeting organizers, we could call it
“knowledge-sharing” instead </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jesper Lund Stocholm<br>
</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#363434'>c</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>i</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#363434'>ber</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>
Danmark A/S</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Shawn Villaron
[mailto:shawnv@microsoft.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jesper Lund Stocholm; Innovimax SARL<br>
<b>Cc:</b> e-sc34-wg4@ecma-international.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: SC34/WG4 Test of Live Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thanks
for reporting success.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I’m
interested in better understanding the desire for the IRC like chat. If
we’re all on the phone, what’s the purpose? Is it record keeping, a
mechanism to ask for the floor, etc? I’m curious so that I can better
suggest solutions to the problem …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>shawn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jesper Lund Stocholm
[mailto:jesper.stocholm@ciber.dk] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2009 10:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shawn Villaron; Innovimax SARL<br>
<b>Cc:</b> e-sc34-wg4@ecma-international.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: SC34/WG4 Test of Live Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I
have no problems connecting to Live Meeting – I access it using the installed
app on Windows XP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I do
lack an “IRC-kindof-chat” for all users, but maybe that has to be enabled
separately. I think it would be of great value to have an open channel/chat
that all participants can see.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jesper Lund Stocholm<br>
</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#363434'>c</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>i</span></b><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#363434'>ber</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>
Danmark A/S</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Shawn Villaron
[mailto:shawnv@microsoft.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Innovimax SARL<br>
<b>Cc:</b> e-sc34-wg4@ecma-international.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: SC34/WG4 Test of Live Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Excellent.
I’ll try the Chrome browser tomorrow; that should get us success on four of the
five major browsers ( IE, FF, Safari and Chrome ) … <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I’m
still interested in knowing if anyone on a UNIX/Linux box was successful; I
don’t have either of those at home/work to test on …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thanks
again for reporting success!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>shawn<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Innovimax SARL [mailto:innovimax@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2009 10:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shawn Villaron<br>
<b>Cc:</b> e-sc34-wg4@ecma-international.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: SC34/WG4 Test of Live Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Hi Shawn,<br>
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I tried from France on Safari/Mac and it seems to work just fine !<br>
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Thanks !!<br>
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Mohamed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Shawn
Villaron <<a href="mailto:invitations@livemeeting.com">invitations@livemeeting.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>When: Monday, Apr 27, 2009 4:00 PM (PDT)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Where: Virtual<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Courier'>*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Console"'>This
is a test for for SC34's Work Group 4. Ideally we'll be able to use this
service to assist in document review during our teleconferences.<br>
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I'd encourage WG4 members to connect to this meeting ( it will be available for
12 hours starting at 4PM Pacific ) to ensure that there are no connectivity
problems.<br>
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If you do run into problems, please email me at <a
href="mailto:ShawnV@microsoft.com" target="_blank">ShawnV@microsoft.com</a>
with your issue.<br>
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If the LM test experience is unacceptable, naturally we'll try to find an
alternative.<br>
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Thank you for participating in this test.<br>
<br>
Shawn Villa ron<br>
Group Program Manager, Microsoft Office PowerPoint<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Notes </span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Villaron has invited you to attend an online meeting using Live Meeting.</span><span
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target="_blank">Join the meeting.</a> </span></b><span lang=EN-US><br>
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