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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I mentioned this action item on the teleconference today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Rex<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> GEHRING Holger
[mailto:GEHRING@iso.org] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 05, 2010 12:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jaeschke Rex Mr.<br>
<b>Cc:</b> BRANNON Keith; COOK Richard<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Q re XML Schema Licensing and standards that contain XML
schemas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dear Rex,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Could you please clarify your request.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>To my knowledge the license statement you refer to is exactly
the one that is included in ISO/IEC 29500. In the license statement itself it
is referred to ISO/IEC 29500. Why does the DR then state that there is no
license statement in the standard and that the “default license” of
JTC1 does not fit. To my knowledge JTC1 does not use this license
statement as a default license statement. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Best wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Holger<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Holger Gehring<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Legal Adviser<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ISO Central Secretariat<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CH style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.iso.org">www.iso.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CH style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CH style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tel. + 41 22 749 0513<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CH style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> COOK Richard <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2010-10-22 13:40<br>
<b>To:</b> GEHRING Holger<br>
<b>Cc:</b> BRANNON Keith<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Q re XML Schema Licensing and standards that contain XML
schemas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>OK, thanks Holger.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>See you on Tuesday.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Bon week-end.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> GEHRING Holger <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2010-10-22 12:46<br>
<b>To:</b> COOK Richard<br>
<b>Cc:</b> BRANNON Keith<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Q re XML Schema Licensing and standards that contain XML
schemas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Richard, could we talk about this issue first. Next week
Tuesday 11 am in my office if that is convenient for you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Holger <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Holger Gehring<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Legal Adviser<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ISO Central Secretariat<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CH style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.iso.org">www.iso.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CH style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CH style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tel. + 41 22 749 0513<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR-CH style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> COOK Richard <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2010-10-20 09:24<br>
<b>To:</b> GEHRING Holger<br>
<b>Cc:</b> BRANNON Keith<br>
<b>Subject:</b> FW: Q re XML Schema Licensing and standards that contain XML
schemas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Holger,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The project editor of ISO/IEC 29500 (OOXML) is asking for </span><span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>guidance about what
text we should include w.r.t licensing of xml schemas (see below).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Can
you give him any advice?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Richard</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> BRANNON Keith <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2010-10-20 09:09<br>
<b>To:</b> COOK Richard<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Q re XML Schema Licensing and standards that contain XML
schemas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Keith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> COOK Richard <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2010-10-19 12:13<br>
<b>To:</b> BRANNON Keith<br>
<b>Subject:</b> FW: Q re XML Schema Licensing and standards that contain XML
schemas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Keith,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I remember you asking me a few weeks ago about licensing of
schemas. Rex is now asking the same thing, but specifically relating to a
Defect Report submitted against 29500 OOXML.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Should this be referred to Holger?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Rex Jaeschke [mailto:rex@RexJaeschke.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 2010-10-13 21:07<br>
<b>To:</b> COOK Richard<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Q re XML Schema Licensing and standards that contain XML
schemas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hello Richard, from
northern Virginia, USA, where we are having some glorious early-autumn weather.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34/WG4 has
received a DR against IS 29500, 3 of whose Parts contain printed and electronic</span>
<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>schemas. The DR states,</span>
<span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>“No license statements for
schemas are included at present. Thus, the default license of JTC 1,
which is very inappropriate for OOXML, applies.”</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The submitter’s proposed
solution is</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>the
following:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>“The following permission
notice and disclaimer shall be included in all copies of this schema ("the
Schema"), and derivations of the Schema:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Permission is hereby
granted, free of charge in perpetuity, to any person obtaining a copy of the
Schema, to use, copy, modify, merge and distribute free of charge, copies of
the Schema for the purposes of developing, implementing, installing and using
software based on the Schema, and to permit persons to whom the Schema is
furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>THE SCHEMA IS PROVIDED
"AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING
BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS
BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF
CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE
SCHEMA OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SCHEMA. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In addition, any modified
copy of the Schema shall include the following notice: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>THIS SCHEMA HAS BEEN
MODIFIED FROM THE SCHEMA DEFINED IN ISO/IEC 29500-1, AND SHOULD NOT BE
INTERPRETED AS COMPLYING WITH THAT STANDARD.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>During WG4’s</span> <span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>deliberations it was noted that
there is some related activity going on in JTC 1. In any event, I was
tasked with an action item to,</span> <span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>“ask
ITTF for guidance about what text we should include w.r.t licensing of
schemas”. Any suggestions you have would be appreciated.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Rex</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span> <span
style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Skype: RexJaeschke</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>2051 Swans Neck Way,
Reston, VA, 20191-4023, USA</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Phone: +1 703 860-0091</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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