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tom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB>Dear Editor,<br><br>Thanks for handling our problem reports, most of which were satisfactorily fixed.<br><br>There are two issues which I believe to be still open.<br><br>1) DR-09-0199: Is marked &quot;further consideration required&quot;.<br>&nbsp; I would like to know if something is not clear in my report.<br>&nbsp; If the problem is that my suggested fix is not good enough, I would like to know the reason, so I can improve it.<br>&nbsp; You can add my personal email as contact address for this issue.<br><br>2) DR-09-0200: It seems that my report was misunderstood.<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; The problem with the current version is the missing information, not the choice of words. <br>&nbsp;&nbsp; The practical fact is that implementors have to swap left and right margin in half of the pages, but it is not specified *which half* they have to swap. <br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp; With the current (June 2009) fix, they might be able to make an educated guess, based on the newly added note, but this is insufficient in my opinion.<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps &quot;facing&quot; should be replaced with &quot;facing right in LTR documents, and facing left in RTL documents&quot;, but I believe that would *still be confusing* (because it depends on the way you hold the pages).<br><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A better solution might be to say &quot;even numbered&quot; as I originally suggested, and change the comment (the one that was added in June 2009) as follows <br><br>[Note: &quot;Even numbered&quot; refers to the physical order of the pages. Page numbering can be set arbitrarily, so the flip might not always be on pages with even-numbered labels. end note]<br><br>p.s.<br><br>&nbsp; I would like to know what is the proper procedure for reporting more problems.<br><br>thanks,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Amit Aronovitch&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="mailto:aronovitch@gmail.com">aronovitch@gmail.com</a><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Member of SII technical committee 2109<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>