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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks for taking a thorough look at this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I think you’re right about the extra themeShade items – my way of finding the differences was to dig through our implementer notes looking for places where we called out different behavior – however, we seem
to have missed those ones. I’ve added them to the draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">On @color... per each instance you mention:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">17.2.1: my solution (which I haven’t shared yet) doesn’t involve the style hierarchy at all, so I think this one is fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">17.3.4: This was fixed in the yellow bucket by applying a default of “auto” to the CT. However, looking at the other ones you brought up, this doesn’t seem to be the way they were handled typically
in prose before. It would appear the default was described there… so I’ve moved this one into the blue bucket and resolved it this way instead. It does beg the question of whether there are other instances where behavior that could be captured in schema is
documented in prose, but I don’t want to try and resolve that in this DR. The style hierarchy aspects, especially, make it non-trivial.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">17.3.5: This attribute isn’t mentioned in the yellow bucket, but it is optional with no default. However, behaviour is actually covered in the prose (“If this attribute is omitted, then its value shall
be assumed to be auto”).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">17.6.2, 17.6.7, 17.6.15, 17.6.21: The attribute isn’t mentioned in the yellow bucket, but I agree that it’s optional with no behavior supplied. I’ve added these to the proposed blue ones.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">I’ve gone through the rest of the document and I believe you’ve captured all the instances<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">On @themeColor:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">17.3.5: I think we’re actually good with the current wording. The item was incorrect because of an “element” / ”attribute” switch.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">17.3.2.40, 17.3.4, 17.6.2, 17.6.7, 17.6.15, 17.6.21: In these instances, @themeColor does state that it’s only used as an override for @color. We formerly didn’t specify what the default for @color
was, but I think this has been fixed by the additive changes made above to the blue bucketed items. So I don't think we need any further changes here.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">17.2.1: This also fell back onto the @color setting, but its behaviour wasn’t described when @color was missing. So I’ve added that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">17.3.5: This fell back onto the @color setting, but its behaviour was indeed already described in the standard.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’ve attached an updated “blue ones”. I also modified the yellow ones, but only to remove the default for “color” in CT_Border, so probably no need to attach the full text.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Francis Cave [mailto:francis@franciscave.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 August 2014 01:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Rae; e-SC34-WG4@ecma-international.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: DR 13:0013: Proposed solution to "the blue ones"<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">This looks good.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">I've done a trawl for @themeShade in Part 1, and I think that there are other occurrences needing the same treatment in 17.6.2 bottom (Bottom Border), 17.6.7 left (Left Border), 17.6.15 right (Right Border), 17.6.21
top (Top Border) and 17.15.2.5 color (Frameset Splitter Color).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">I note that you have addressed @color in the case of 17.3.2.40 u (Underline), and I wonder whether the treatment of @color in other cases should be similar. There is one instance of @color is in the green bucket: 17.2.1
background (Document Background). Other instances of @color are in the yellow bucket: 17.3.4, 17.3.5, 17.6.2, 17.6.7, 17.6.15 and 17.6.21 . There's another instance of @color in 17.3.5 that we may have overlooked.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">I'm also now wondering whether @themeColor is being correctly specified in all instances. We already have a proposed correction of @themeColor that occurs in 17.3.5 (DR 14-0002 - purple bucket), in which we now have:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">If this <s>
<span style="color:red">element</span></s><span style="color:red"> </span><u><span style="color:#4472C4">attribute</span></u><span style="color:#4472C4">
</span>is omitted, then no theme color is applied, and the color attribute shall be used to determine the shading pattern color.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Would this same wording be appropriate to add in other instances of @themeColor, i.e. 17.2.1, 17.3.2.40, 17.3.4, 17.3.5, 17.6.2, 17.6.7, 17.6.15 and 17.6.21?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">It might be worth checking all uses of @color and @themeColor for consistency. Maybe we could discuss this briefly on Thursday’s call.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Francis<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Chris Rae [<a href="mailto:Chris.Rae@microsoft.com">mailto:Chris.Rae@microsoft.com</a>]
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Sent: 18 August 2014 19:26<br>
To: <a href="mailto:e-SC34-WG4@ecma-international.org">e-SC34-WG4@ecma-international.org</a><br>
Subject: DR 13:0013: Proposed solution to "the blue ones"</span><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Attached are my proposed changes for the "blue" DR 13-0013 (<a href="https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx/Public"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx/Public</span></a>
Documents/2013/DR-13-0013.docx) changes. These are ones for which prose needed to be added to the standard to cover behavior (i.e. this could not be represented in schema).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">I've attached my changes - as part of the work I scanned Office's implementer notes and found one more example of the themeShade/themeTint behavior that many of these items represent. I've made a comment on that particular
change.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Also attached is a test document I used to verify the behavior of the optional column width settings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">At this point, the only bucket I have left is the green ones. Although they're the ones marked as "need individual investigation" and there are 24 of them, so I might not make amazingly fast progress. I'm still anticipating
being done by Kyoto, as promised.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-GB">Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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