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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]/*EC*/--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Re-sending on Alfred’s behalf, as he got a lot of messages regarding the inability to deliver when he posted this earlier today. Rex<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Alfred Hellstern <Alfred.Hellstern@microsoft.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 12, 2018 5:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> Rex Jaeschke <rex@RexJaeschke.com>; SC 34 WG4 <e-SC34-WG4@ecma-international.org><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: DRs waiting for MS experts<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:KO'>I’ve included additional answers for some of the DRs relating to SML. Find them under </span><b>2018-09-12</b> below.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:KO'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Rex Jaeschke <<a href="mailto:rex@RexJaeschke.com">rex@RexJaeschke.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 7, 2018 6:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> SC 34 WG4 <<a href="mailto:e-SC34-WG4@ecma-international.org">e-SC34-WG4@ecma-international.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> FW: DRs waiting for MS experts<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=DE><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal>Here’s more feedback (which includes that circulated recently). Rex<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><h2>Raised because of problems<o:p></o:p></h2></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>17-0016 SML: Reference Sequence (sqref) Examples?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-12 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Response from our product team:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>Excel does not consider the term ‘range’ in the descriptive text to have a specific technical meaning. For ST_sqRef we support the list of ranges defined in the schema, which includes both single cells and references to multiple cells.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>17-0017 SML: Column Width and Formatting <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-12 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Partial response from our product team:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>In section 2.1.596 of MS_IO29500 we describe our implementation of col. Part a and b specific the minimum and maximum allowed values. Since 1 is the minimum value, it is 1 based indexing. Part f describes how we calculate width, which partially addresses the question relating to the width of col C.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>The product team is still looking into the other questions about the col properties<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>17-0029 SML: Quoting of Worksheet Names Containing Periods <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-04 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Alfred Hellstern: For the new questions in Charlie’s last comment, it would be better to open a new request since they are more broad than the original request and represent an increase in scope.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Response from our product team:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>In his most recent comment, Charlie mentioned the original ask has been resolved. One clarification that can be made is to the EBNF to indicate that the first character of an unquoted name should be further restricted to also exclude ‘.’ and 0-9. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-12 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Additional response from our product team:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>Our intent by “names should be further restricted to also include ‘.’ and 0-9” is that those items need to be added to the list of characters that require quotation marks, not that they replace the existing list in the documentation. The existing list in MS-OI29500 2.1.861 does already include %. To the question around which version the issue existed in and was resolved in, since we have been unable to reproduce the issue internally, we are unable to comment on which versions experienced the behavior.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=NO-BOK>18-0009 DML: 2D-Transforms </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span lang=NO-BOK>2018-09-07 Alfred Hellstern:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Product team will look into this next quarter<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>18-0010 SML: Optional spans and r attributes in sheet rows and cells?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-12 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Response from our product team:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>The standard specifies that the span attribute is for optimization purposes only, and the proposed changes are overly prescriptive of functionality that is not correct. We propose making no change to the attribute.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>We do agree the at the current definition of the ‘r’ attribute being default creates confusion. We published an implementor’s note describing how we interpret the omitted attribute: “If this attribute is not specified, the cell shall be located in the column with the index that is 1 greater than that of the previous cell in the parent row collection. If this attribute is not specified and the cell is the first c element in the parent row collection, the cell shall be located in the first column.” We do believe for clarity it makes sense to add the description of how to handle an omitted ‘r’ attribute on the CT_Cell element. We propose using our implementer’s note or something similar as the replacement text.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>18-0011 SML: Tables and Query Tables <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><h2>Raised by reviewing ISO/IEC 29500<o:p></o:p></h2></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>15-0020 WML: Make clear where in transitional WML can VML occur<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-07 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Response from our product team:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/--><b>shapeDefaults</b> – standard states only vml-officeDrawing.xsd is allowed. Schema is consistent with this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/--><b>hdrShapeDefaults</b> – standard states only vml-officeDrawing.xsd is allowed. Schema is consistent with this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/--><b>pict</b>- need to investigate code to determine if it’s possible to write out both vml.xsd and vml-officeDrawing.xsd. Schema allows both namespaces, but standard indicates only vml.xsd is allowed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/--><b>background</b>- proposal is to insert a new section between 14.1 and 14.2 called Main Document Story that includes a new item describing use of VML for the background element, indicating that vml.xsd and vml-officeDrawing.xsd are allowed. This is consistent with the schema. I agree.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/--><b>object</b>- proposal is to insert a new section after 14.3.2, to describe VML for object element, indicating that vml.xsd and vml-officeDrawing.xsd are allowed. This is consistent with the schema. I agree.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>6)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/--><b>Pml.xsd and sml.xsd</b>- I’m not sure about this portion of the DR. Those appear to be related to PPT and XL Strict XML? (Correct me if I’m wrong here).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt;text-indent:.25in'>So I think we need to investigate 3) a little more, and I need help understanding whether 6) is really an item for us?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>17-0002 PML:?sld?is missing its attributes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-07 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Response from our product team:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>The DR refers to the three references to “sld”, and details confusion about what is defined where. The MS experts went through the documentation and it seems like everything is in fact correctly documented, but with the below errors/exceptions:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:88.8pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/-->19.3.1.38 needs to have its title and description updated. The existing description text should be removed as it incorrectly refers to another part.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:124.8pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/--><b>Title:</b> sld (Presentation Slide)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:124.8pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/--><b>Description:</b> This element specifies an instance of a presentation slide. Within a presentation slide are contained all elements that describe the objects and their corresponding formatting.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:88.8pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/-->19.2.1.31 needs to have its title updated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:124.8pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/--><b>Title:</b> sld (Slide Relationship Entry)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:88.8pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/-->19.2.2.14 needs to have its title updated<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:124.8pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><!--/*SC*/[if !supportLists]--><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><!--[endif]/*EC*/--><b>Title: </b>sld (Outline Slide Relationship Entry)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>17-0004 DML: element?nvContentPartPr?exists in the schema but not in prose<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-04 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Product team will look into this next quarter<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>17-0008 Shared ML:?version?attribute of?vstream?is missing from prose<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-04 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Response from our product team:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>It needs to be documented as a GUID string and something like “version is arbitrary and defined by the author of the specific property”.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>17-0013 SML: Make clear where in transitional SML can VML occur<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>17-0014 PML: Make clear where in transitional PML can VML occur<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-07 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Response from our product team:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> The answer to the question whether “VML in PML documents can occur only in vmlDrawing.xml?”, then the answer is “Yes”.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>17-0021 DML: wild cards in the complex type CT_GraphicalObjectData of dml-main.xsd and dml-main.rnc<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-07 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Product team will look into this next quarter<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>18-0005 DML: Reference to Non-Existent Child Elements of <c:layout><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><h2>Raised by the mixture<o:p></o:p></h2></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>13-0014 PML: omissions and inconsistencies in the specification of attributes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-07 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Response from our product team:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:70.8pt'>yes it is a string of letters<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>16-0006 DML: Diagrams, Charts and SpreadsheetML Drawings: omissions and inconsistencies in the specification of attributes <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b>2018-09-07 Alfred Hellstern:</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Product team will look into this next quarter<o:p></o:p></p></div><p align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=DE> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='background:white'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='background:white'>Click <a 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