Verifying AMD1 against ODF 1.1 (with COR1+COR2) - CROWDSOURCE PLEASE

Sat Jun 23 10:57:11 CEST 2012

Dennis, Patrick

If I get time over the next week, while I'm in Brasilia for the SC 34
meeting, I'll double-check the schema fragments, then start from the end and
work backwards, if that makes sense.

Maybe some other WG 6 experts (Michiel?) could check some specific sections
where there are a lot of changes in AMD1, e.g. §9.

Regards,

Francis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Durusau [mailto:patrick at durusau.net]
> Sent: 22 June 2012 22:32
> To: dennis.hamilton at acm.org
> Cc: francis at franciscave.com; 'SC34 WG6 Mailing List '
> Subject: Re: Verifying AMD1 against ODF 1.1 (with COR1+COR2) -
> CROWDSOURCE PLEASE
> 
> Dennis,
> 
> Being responsible for the errors you report and correct (thanks!) I
> will
> have a go at the entire text. Not quickly but within the window you
> indicate.
> 
> Deeply appreciate all the hard work!
> 
> Hope you are at the start of a great weekend!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> On 06/22/2012 03:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> > I am delaying the availability of ODF 1.1 Errata 01 WD05 up to 60
> days.  The intended-to-be-final WD06 will follow that by up to 30 days.
> >
> > MEANWHILE, there is a great opportunity to crowd-source the
> verification of the Errata 01 WD04 changes against COR1+COR2+AMD1 of IS
> 26300.
> >
> >   1. An easy way to do this is to break up the review by blocks of
> sections.  Folks can raise their hands here so that others need not
> duplicate review of the same parts.  Double-checking is valuable,
> especially where a discrepancy is noticed.  I recommend coverage
> (breadth) first, then any depth that is found necessary.
> >
> >   2. The document to compare with is the Mocked Change-Tracking of
> ODF 1.1,
> > <http://www.oasis-
> open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=46064&wg_abbrev=office>.
> >
> >   3. For any AMD1 change in a given section (ODF 1.1 has the same
> section numberings), you should be able to observe
> >   a. The Mocked Change-Tracking already has the AMD1 change, without
> any change-tracking needed
> >   b. The Mocked Change-Tracking provides the equivalent of the AMD1
> change, with a combination of what is already there and what is shown
> via change-marking in the Mocked Change-Tracking document.
> >   c. There is a discrepancy and it is *not* an exception pointed out
> in the ODF 1.1 Errata 01 WD04 draft as a discrepancy.
> >
> >   4. The same as (3) can be done for COR1 and COR2.  Some of these
> will be found to have exceptions in ODF 1.1 Errata 01 WD04 also.
> >
> >   5. There are a few changes in Errata 01 WD04 and the Mocked Change-
> Tracking that are newer than AMD1.  Those are identified in the ODF 1.1
> Errata 01 WD04 document.  Those will be reconciled with IS 26300 later.
> >
> > I will capture any discrepancies that are brought up here and, after
> appropriate discussion, remedy them in WD05.
> >
> > IN ADDITION, WD05 will be accompanied by a log of changes in WD04
> Mocked Changes and the Errata 01 WD04 Section 2 so that it will not be
> necessary to review everything all over again in WD05 (and later,
> WD06).
> >
> >   - Dennis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sc34wg6-bounces at vse.cz [mailto:sc34wg6-bounces at vse.cz] On
> Behalf Of Dennis E. Hamilton
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 16:59
> > To: francis at franciscave.com; SC34 WG6 Mailing List
> > Subject: RE: Verifying AMD1 against ODF 1.1 (with COR1+COR2)
> >
> > It seems I uploaded the ODF 1.1 Errata 01 WD04 PDF more than once and
> the ODT not at all.  I deleted that and uploaded the ODT.
> >
> > There's another problem, I see.  The announcements of these uploads
> that go to the ODF TC list provided the public link in the past.  I see
> those notices are now providing the private link and I must manually
> provide public links. (I didn't notice because I have a cookie set and
> wasn't asked to log on.)
> >
> > Here is the public link for the mocked errata document
> > <http://www.oasis-
> open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=46064&wg_abbrev=office>
> > and if you scroll down you can see the list of all available
> versions.
> >
> > Here is the public link for the ODF 1.1 Errata 01 working drafts
> (with the ODT now):
> > <http://www.oasis-
> open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=46096&wg_abbrev=office>
> > Scroll down to see all of the current versions, whether this one,
> earlier, or later.
> > My mistaken uploading of the PDF twice is now corrected.
> >
> >   - Dennis
> >
> > PS: I also wonder how long I have been using "Mailiing List" in the
> title for this list [;<).
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sc34wg6-bounces at vse.cz [mailto:sc34wg6-bounces at vse.cz] On
> Behalf Of Francis Cave
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 16:13
> > To: 'SC34 WG6 Mailiing List '
> > Subject: RE: Verifying AMD1 against ODF 1.1 (with COR1+COR2)
> >
> > Hi Dennis
> >
> > Am I right in thinking that currently the only versions of the WD04
> drafts
> > that are available for public download are the PDF versions? I can
> only see
> > .odt versions for earlier drafts.
> >
> > I'm looking at:
> > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?wg_abbrev=office.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Francis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: sc34wg6-bounces at vse.cz [mailto:sc34wg6-bounces at vse.cz] On
> Behalf
> >> Of Dennis E. Hamilton
> >> Sent: 23 May 2012 23:47
> >> To: 'SC34 WG6 Mailiing List '
> >> Subject: Verifying AMD1 against ODF 1.1 (with COR1+COR2)
> >>
> >> Michiel,
> >>
> >> I offer this to help understanding of what the ODF 1.1 Mocked Errata
> 01
> >> document is, in contrast to how AMD1 applies to IS 26300:2006:
> >>
> >> The ODF 1.1 Mocked Errata 01 document with the indicated changes is
> >> meant to be technically identical to IS 26300 with COR1, COR2, and
> >> AMD1.  However those changes are against a version of ODF 1.0 that
> >> became IS 26300:21006.
> >>
> >> The ODF 1.1 Mocked Errata 01 consists of changes to ODF 1.1 to
> achieve
> >> the same alignment.
> >>
> >> For that reason, many changes introduced by AMD1 are not reflected
> in
> >> WD04, because ODF 1.1 already had the text to which an AMD1 change
> >> aligns.  When checking AMD1 instructions against the ODF 1.1 Mocked
> >> Errata, you will usually see no corresponding change marking in the
> >> Mocked Errata, but the text that is there is in alignment with the
> AMD1
> >> instructions.
> >>
> >> I believe the most important contribution that WG6 participants can
> >> make is to confirm that the AMD1 instructions are implemented in ODF
> >> 1.1 Mocked Errata 01.  There will be a few deviations, shown in the
> >> Appendix of the WD04 ODF 1.1 Errata 01 document, not in the Mocked
> >> Errata document.  There will also be a few more that take a little
> more
> >> work to figure out.  These are not reflected in the WD04 draft yet.
> >> They are all in Section 17 of the specification and in the
> References.
> >> There will also be a few items in the WD04 drafts that are repair
> >> defects in ODF 1.1 since AMD1 was produced.  These will all be
> >> identified in an Appendix also.
> >>
> >>   - Dennis
> >>
> >> AFTERTHOUGHT
> >>
> >>   There is a way to make this work even better.  It just occurred to
> me.
> >> There is no barrier to identifying, using a different form of
> markup,
> >> where in an ODF 1.1 Mocked Errata 01 there is text that already
> agrees
> >> with changes in AMD1.  This has nothing to do with the production of
> >> ODF 1.1 Errata 01, something the ODF TC must attend to.  It would
> make
> >> it easier for all of us to confirm that the technical convergence is
> >> occurring.
> >>
> >> It would make it easier for observers to see that the corresponding
> >> part of ODF 1.1 has been checked as being in agreement.
> >>
> >> If someone were to do this, even if severable people divided up AMD1
> >> and did highlightings in the ODF 1.1 Mocked Errata 01 document, I am
> >> willing to add those into a future draft (WD05 or WD06) by copy and
> >> paste.
> >>
> >> My recommendation is that highlighting be used over those passages
> that
> >> agree with the instructions in AMD1. Do not use font coloring,
> because
> >> there may be need to overlap a place where font coloring and
> >> underlines/strikethroughs have already been used.
> >>
> >> There is a highlight color named "Yellow 1" that is quite light and
> a
> >> bit greenish on my monitor that seems to work well.
> >>
> >> If anyone undertakes this, it would be good to know what parts of
> AMD1
> >> have been verified in this manner so that others don't duplicate the
> >> same work.
> >>
> >> I am willing to provide this myself, but I would not do so until
> >> *after* WD06 was available and the ODF TC could be continuing its
> part
> >> of the effort in parallel.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: office at lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:office at lists.oasis-
> open.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Dennis Hamilton
> >> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 22:36
> >> To: office at lists.oasis-open.org
> >> Subject: [office] Groups - ODF v1.1 Mocked Errata 01 WD04 (PDF)
> >> uploaded
> >>
> >> Submitter's message
> >> This is a PDF of the ODT document of the same name. Some may find
> this
> >> more convenient for review and checking.
> >> -- Mr. Dennis Hamilton
> >> Document Name: ODF v1.1 Mocked Errata 01 WD04
> (PDF)<http://www.oasis-
> >> open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/document.php?document_id=46064>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> Description
> >>  From the Document Description property:
> >>
> >> This is a modification of the ODF 1.1 OASIS Standard showing mocked
> >> tracked-changes modifications in accordance with the corresponding
> >> OASIS
> >> ODF 1.1 Errata 01 Working Draft.
> >>
> >> The Errata items from ODF 1.1 Errata 01 are introduced in this text
> as
> >> simulated change tracking. The tracked-changes feature of the ODF
> >> document
> >> is not used. The appearance of change tracking is by editing of the
> >> text
> >> to have the appearance that tracked changes would have, if carried
> out
> >> using the style of ODF 1.1 Errata 01.
> >>
> >> Working Draft 04 reflects transposition of IS 26300:2006/COR1 (ODF
> 1.0
> >> Errata 01), COR2 (ODF 1.0 Errata 02), and IS 26300:2006/AMD1 changes
> in
> >> which additional ODF 1.1 Errata were detected. This WD will only be
> >> revised further only to correct errors in this transposition and for
> >> additional post-AMD1 Errata items identified for the completed ODF
> 1.1
> >> Errata 01.
> >>
> >> For further details, consult the latest ODF 1.1 Errata 01 Working
> Draft
> >> editions. Those will identify the version of these mock changed-
> tracked
> >> documents that correspond to them.
> >> Download Latest Revision<http://www.oasis-
> >>
> open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/download.php/46064/latest/OpenDocume
> >> nt-v1.1-MockedErrata-wd04-2012-05-18-1517-dh.pdf>
> >> Public Download Link<http://www.oasis-
> >> open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=46064&wg_abbrev=office>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> Submitter: Mr. Dennis Hamilton
> >> Group: OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications
> >> (OpenDocument) TC
> >> Folder: Miscellaneous
> >> Date submitted: 2012-05-20 22:35:33
> >> Revision: 4
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Patrick Durusau
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> Former Chair, V1 - US TAG to JTC 1/SC 34
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> Editor, OpenDocument Format TC (OASIS), Project Editor ISO/IEC 26300
> Co-Editor, ISO/IEC 13250-1, 13250-5 (Topic Maps)
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