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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I attach a revised draft of the minutes in which I have made the following change to the second paragraph under item 6.1:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The sentence <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“Although no formal position was taken by the meeting, the balance of view during the meeting seemed to be in favour of retaining 26300 to align with ODF 1.1, which will remain a supported OASIS standard after ODF 1.2 has been published, and creating a new numbered standard to align with ODF 1.2.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>has been replaced by<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>“The matter was discussed only briefly and no formal position was taken by the meeting.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Francis Cave<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Convenor<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> sc34wg6-bounces@vse.cz [mailto:sc34wg6-bounces@vse.cz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Francis Cave<br><b>Sent:</b> 07 July 2011 17:36<br><b>To:</b> robert_weir@us.ibm.com<br><b>Cc:</b> sc34wg6@vse.cz<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Draft minutes of teleconference meeting on 2011-06-22 / Draft agenda for teleconference meeting on 2011-08-17<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Rob, Gerry<br><br>Sorry, I am obviously guilty of having over-interpreted (or should it be over-interpolated?) the direction of the discussion. I'm happy to correct the draft minutes as Rob has suggested.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Francis Cave<br>Convenor<br><br><br><br><a href="mailto:robert_weir@us.ibm.com">robert_weir@us.ibm.com</a> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><pre><a href="mailto:sc34wg6-bounces@vse.cz">sc34wg6-bounces@vse.cz</a> wrote on 07/06/2011 06:37:45 PM:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>On Tuesday 05 Jul 2011 21:46:09 Francis Cave wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>I attach draft minutes of the teleconference meeting on 2011-06-22. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote></blockquote><pre>Please<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>advise me of any errors.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre>Regarding Item 6.1:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>"Although no formal position was taken by the meeting, the balance <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>of view during the meeting seemed to be in favour of retaining 26300<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>to align with ODF 1.1, which will remain a supported OASIS standard <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>after ODF 1.2 has been published, and creating a new numbered <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>standard to align with ODF 1.2"<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>While I understand the reasoning behind the view that perhaps ODF 1.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>2 should have a new numbered standard may I present a non-technical <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>reason for suggestind that IS 26300 should be retained?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I'd also question whether that was the sense of the meeting. My sense was <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>it was quite undecided and even slightly tipped the other way. But this <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>is extremely hard to determine on a teleconference, absent a formal poll <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>of attendees, so I'd be satisfied if the minutes merely stated that the <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>topic was discussed but no formal position was taken. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Suprisingly thought it may seem, it is not clear that <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>administrations (more specifically UKG) would be able to get their <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>heads around the new number. UKG struggles with standards generally.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I caution against anythin that could lead to the unintended <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>consequence of (even) slower adoption of ODF.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>This is not an unevidenced assertion. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>May I ask you to look at the following?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.opensourceconsortium.org/content/view/156/89/">http://www.opensourceconsortium.org/content/view/156/89/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.opensourceconsortium.org/content/view/141/89/">http://www.opensourceconsortium.org/content/view/141/89/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.opensourceconsortium.org/content/view/149/89/">http://www.opensourceconsortium.org/content/view/149/89/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201012/cmselect/cmpubadm/">http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201012/cmselect/cmpubadm/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>writev/goodgovit/it63.htm<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Thank you<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Gerry Gavigan<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>sc34wg6 mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:sc34wg6@vse.cz">sc34wg6@vse.cz</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://mailman.vse.cz/mailman/listinfo/sc34wg6">http://mailman.vse.cz/mailman/listinfo/sc34wg6</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>sc34wg6 mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:sc34wg6@vse.cz">sc34wg6@vse.cz</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://mailman.vse.cz/mailman/listinfo/sc34wg6">http://mailman.vse.cz/mailman/listinfo/sc34wg6</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></div></div></body></html>