UTF-8 in ZIP

robert_weir at us.ibm.com robert_weir at us.ibm.com
Wed Nov 3 14:38:43 CET 2010

Alex Brown <alexb at griffinbrown.co.uk> wrote on 11/03/2010 09:13:52 AM:

> Rob hi
> > Better for whom?
> The ISO/IEC Directive Part 1 Clause 3 state:
> "any party participating in the work of the Organizations should, 
> from the outset, draw their attention to any known patent or to any 
> known pending patent application, either their own or of other 
> In this context, the words "from the outset" imply that such 
> information should be disclosed as early as possible during the 
> development of the Recommendation / Deliverable."

So you want me to draw your attention to "any known patent or to any known 
pending patent application"?  Seriously?

OK.  I know a patent.  It is US 5,555,555 "Apparatus Which Detects Lines 
Approximating an Image".

I also know another patent: US 4,444,444 "Equipment for storage of energy 
under kinetic form"

Shall I go on?  I know that there are approximately 7 million patents and 
patent applications.

But to be fair, Keanu Reeves is also known to me, though I have never met 
or seen him in person.  And I know of Albania, though I have never had the 
pleasure of visiting.

What now?

In any case I think you are dodging my question.  Better for whom?  The 
Directives state this as a recommendation, not a requirement.  So who 
benefits from showing all their cards up front?  And what can SC34 offer 
that makes the entities that actually hold the cards do this?  There is 
certainly no compulsion.  So I think this suggests that SC34 either lower 
its expectations, or that they make a case for why the parties that have 
what you want should give you what you want.  In other words, you need to 
consider what is to their benefit as well.  I think that is the fastest 
way to forging a compromise here.


More information about the sc34wg1study mailing list