DR 11-0030, DR 11-0031, DR 11-0032

[John Haug]

> Actually, the proposal is "References XML Signature 1.1. If not possible, use the second edition of XML Signature 1.0."   The second edition is a recommendation.

Right.  From the "changes" doc (http://www.w3.org/TR/xmldsig-core/explain.html), I don't see anything terribly concerning.  There are additional requirements and some changes to references.

> But since the OPC RELAX NG schemas are non-normative, I see no problems.
> How about a non-normative reference and no schema changes?

I'd rather not add new references to incomplete works, particularly since it changes existing text.  Even if informative, it sets an expectation and recommendation.  Further, the 1.1 components are interrelated, so until they are in a position to be picked up together, we oughtn't do anything piecemeal.  They're in final stages, so I think the more appropriate thing to do is let them complete their process.  By the time we get to looking at OPC in depth, their status may be updated.


What do the rest of you think?

-----Original Message-----
From: eb2mmrt at gmail.com [mailto:eb2mmrt at gmail.com] On Behalf Of MURATA Makoto
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 2:15 PM
To: John Haug
Cc: e-SC34-WG4 at ecma-international.org
Subject: Re: DR 11-0030, DR 11-0031, DR 11-0032

John,

2011/12/10 John Haug <johnhaug at exchange.microsoft.com>:
> DR 11-0030 - OPC:  Obsolete version of W3C XML Digital Signature 1.0
>
> https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx/Public%20Documents/2011/DR-11-0030
> .docx?cid=c8ba0861dc5e4adc&sc=documents
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> This DR requests a change in the normative reference of Part 2 §3 from 
> XMLDSig 1.0 (http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-xmldsig-core-20020212/) to 
> XMLDSig 1.1 (http://www.w3.org/TR/xmldsig-core1/).

Actually, the proposal is "References XML Signature 1.1. If not possible,
use the second edition of XML Signature 1.0."   The second edition is
a recommendation.

XML Signature Syntax and Processing (Second Edition) W3C Recommendation 10 June 2008 available at http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-xmldsig-core-20080610/



> DR 11-0031 - OPC: Use official RELAX NG schemas from W3C
>
> https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx/Public%20Documents/2011/DR-11-0031
> .docx?cid=c8ba0861dc5e4adc&sc=documents
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> This DR requests a change in the informative reference to XMLDSig 
> schema of Part 2 §E.5.2 from 
> http://www.w3.org/Signature/2002/07/xmldsig-core-schema.rng to those 
> in http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlsec-rngschema/.

The XMLDSig  RNG schema currently used in OPC has absolutely no official status.

This DR requests that an officially published schema be referenced.  It is true that this schema appears in a working draft  But since the OPC RELAX NG schemas are non-normative, I see no problems.

> DR 11-0032 - OPC: XML Signature Properties
>
> https://skydrive.live.com/view.aspx/Public%20Documents/2011/DR-11-0032
> .docx?cid=c8ba0861dc5e4adc&sc=documents
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> This DR requests Part 2 include a normative reference to, and use, the 
> schemas of XML Signature Properties 
> (http://www.w3.org/TR/xmldsig-properties/).

In this case, I do not know when it will become a recommendation.

The following paragraphs are quoted from the introduction of this CR.
<blockquote>
The SignatureProperties element defined by XML Signature [XMLDSIG-CORE1] offers a means to associate property values with an XML Signature. This document defines specific properties that may be used by various applications of XML Signature, without requiring those applications to define such properties on a per case basis. This document defines how these properties are to be specified and processed when used but does not require their use - specifications that reference this document may or may not require their use.

The properties defined in this document are not a breaking change to XML Signature, but warrant a new namespace for the properties themselves so that they can be used in various versions of XML Signature.
</blockquote>
	
How about a non-normative reference and no schema changes?


Regards,
Makoto



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> Since all of these are in either the W3C Candidate Recommendation 
> state (0030, 0032) or W3C Working Draft state (0031), I think it's 
> premature and inappropriate to have the standard refer to them.  I 
> recommend these be closed without action.
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> John



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