RE: DR 14-0013 — SML: definedName attribute localSheetId

[Chris Rae]

No – localSheetId is a lookup into sheetId values elsewhere.

Chris

From: eb2mmrt at gmail.com [mailto:eb2mmrt at gmail.com] On Behalf Of MURATA Makoto
Sent: 09 February 2015 14:47
To: Chris Rae
Cc: e-SC34-WG4 at ecma-international.org
Subject: Re: DR 14-0013 — SML: definedName attribute localSheetId

Thanks.  This is much better.  Should localSheetId be sheetId?

Regards,
Makoto

2015-02-10 3:15 GMT+09:00 Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com<mailto:Chris.Rae at microsoft.com>>:
Thanks for taking a look at this! That's a good idea - I was struggling a bit with how to talk about local-scoped names which referred to references on different sheets without over-complicating the text.

I've updated the example to include the sheet definition, and changed it to refer to a locally-scoped name with a local reference. I think that should make it significantly clearer.

Revised version attached.

Chris

From: eb2mmrt at gmail.com<mailto:eb2mmrt at gmail.com> [mailto:eb2mmrt at gmail.com<mailto:eb2mmrt at gmail.com>] On Behalf Of MURATA Makoto
Sent: 07 February 2015 02:00
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Subject: Re: DR 14-0013 — SML: definedName attribute localSheetId

Chris,

I do not understand what is meant by "The sheet element with
localSheetId equal to the value of this attribute".  An
example of such a sheet element would be nice as part of
the first example.

Regards,
Makoto


2015-02-07 2:59 GMT+09:00 Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com<mailto:Chris.Rae at microsoft.com>>:
https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx/Public%20Documents/2014/DR-14-0013.docx?cid=C8BA0861DC5E4ADC

This DR concerns the localSheetID attribute of the SpreadsheetML definedName element, and states that the attribute's meaning is unclear.

After looking into this, I think the submitter is right and that it's not at all clear what this attribute is intended to represent. I've attached some proposed changes to the standard. A couple of notes:

* I think that the example mentioned by the submitter is poorly chosen. It mention a "data source" and "external database"  - the submitter is correct that this isn't the defined name required for a SpreadsheetML data connected range, and really I don't think any mention should be made of external data as it complicates the example and isn't relevant. I've reworded it as such.
* Revision records also contain defined names with the same attribute - they have much better descriptions. For example, in 18.11.1.13, the localSheetId is described as " An integer representing the id of the sheet to which this defined name belongs. This shall be used local defined names only." (sic)
* I notice that Microsoft's MS-OI29500 implementer notes (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee908652(v=office.12).aspx) already cover Excel's behaviour with this attribute - as the standard is not well-defined at all, many of my changes are from there.

Chris




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