DR 15-0014:Proposed text

[caroline arms]

Murata-san,

A few suggestions, mainly editorial, based on reading the text, not on
a full understanding of the technical issues.

1.   In -- Additions to 21.2.2.104 manualLayout (Manual Layout)

In the second paragraph, I suspect "parent element" should be "parent
element of the nearest ancestor layout element".

Also, I think  "y" in "neither h nor y elements shall be specified"
should be "w".

It might be simpler to say "and h and w elements shall not be specified."

2.  In -- Additions to 21.2.2.89  layoutTarget (Layout Target)

Drop "either" -- should only be used if there are 2 alternatives.  I
would drop "element" at the end of the sentence -- otherwise it should
be plural.

3.  Typos
Furthremore -->  Furthermore  [x and y paragraphs]
sume --> sum   [h and w paragraphs]
small than --> smaller than   [h and w paragraphs]

  Hope this helps.

  Caroline

On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 4:11 AM, MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt at asahi-net.or.jp> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Here is my proposed text for closing this DR.  I replaced
> all "shall" by "should".  Although existing OOXML documents
> are unlikely to invalidate  the restrictions in my text, I would
> like to make sure that no conformant data are made non-conformant
> by this change.
>
> Charlie requested further details of wMode and yMode.  I
> will create a new DR for this.
>
> Regards,
> Makoto
>
> -----------
>
> Additions to 21.2.2.104 manualLayout (Manual Layout)
>
> If the parent element of the nearest ancestor layout element is a legend or
> plotArea element, either none or all of the h, w, x, and y elements
> should be specified.
>
> If the parent element of this manualLayout element is a dispUnitsLbl,
> dLbl, title, or trendlineLbl element, either none or both of the x and
> y elements should be specified, and neither h nor y elements should be
> specified.
>
>
> Additions to 21.2.2.89  layoutTarget (Layout Target)
>
> This element is allowed only when the parent element of the nearest
> ancestor layout element is either  dispUnitsLbl, dLbl,
> legend, title, or trendlineLbl element.
>
>
> Additions to 21.2.2.232 x (Left)
>
> The value of the val attribute should be smaller than or equal to 1.
> Furthremore, this value should be greater than or equal to 0 when the
> value of the val attribute of a sibling xMode is edge, and should be
> greater than or equal to -1 when the value of the val attribute of a
> sibling xMode is factor.
>
>
> Additions to 21.2.2.235 y (Top)
>
> The value of the val attribute should be smaller than or equal to 1.
> Furthremore, this value should be greater than or equal to 0 when the
> value of the val attribute of a sibling yMode is edge, and should be
> greater than or equal to -1 when the value of the val attribute of a
> sibling yMode is factor.
>
>
> Additions to 21.2.2.229 w (Width)
>
> The value of the val attribute should be small than or equal to 1 and
> greater than or equal to 0.  Furthermore, the sume of this value and
> the value of the val attribute of the sibling x element should be less
> than or equal to 1.
>
>
> Additions to 21.2.2.78 h (Height)
>
> The value of the val attribute should be small than or equal to 1 and
> greater than or equal to 0.  Furthermore, the sume of this value and
> the value of the val attribute of the sibling y element should be less
> than or equal to 1.
>
>
>
>
> 2017-07-17 21:58 GMT+09:00 MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt at asahi-net.or.jp>:
>>
>> Charlie's feedback and my reply.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt at asahi-net.or.jp>
>> Date: 2017-07-17 21:09 GMT+09:00
>> Subject: Re: DR 15-0014:Proposed text
>> To: Charlie Clark <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>
>> Cc: "MURATA Makoto (FAMILY Given)" <eb2m-mrt at asahi-net.or.jp>
>>
>>
>> I am going to forward your reply to the WG4 ML.
>>
>> I am wondering if I should replace "shall" by "should".  "Shall" implies
>> that all existing
>> OOXML documents not satisfying the constraints are non-conformant.
>> "Should" does
>> not go that far.
>>
>> > But shouldn't the descriptions for wMode and yMode be extended? Ideally
>> > with an example?
>>
>> I am afraid that I do not understand these modes well.  Could you provide
>> a draft?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Makoto
>>
>>
>> 2017-07-17 20:47 GMT+09:00 Charlie Clark
>> <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>:
>>>
>>> Am .07.2017, 16:10 Uhr, schrieb MURATA Makoto <eb2m-mrt at asahi-net.or.jp>:
>>>
>>> Hi Makoto,
>>>
>>> wording looks good to me (typo in "furthremore"). Be interesting to see
>>> if MS confirms your interpretation because implementation details for the
>>> constraints could be tricky! For me, the main improvement is the explanation
>>> of the limits for x, y, w, h. But shouldn't the descriptions for wMode and
>>> yMode be extended? Ideally with an example?
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The response from the Microsoft expert in the log and  [MS-OI29500]
>>>> (Office Implementation Information for ISO/IEC 29500) use the word
>>>> "ancestor".  I am wondering if this word should rather be replaced
>>>> by "the parent element of the nearest ancestor layout element ".  This
>>>> is
>>>> because
>>>> some manualLayout element has both plotArea and dLbl (or title or
>>>> trendLineLbl)
>>>> as ancestors.  Here are some paths containing both.
>>>>
>>>> plotArea/area3DChart/dLbls/dLbl/layout/manualLayout
>>>> plotArea/areaChart/dLbls/dLbl/layout/manualLayout
>>>> plotArea/valAx/dispUnits/dispUnitsLbl/layout/manualLayout
>>>> plotArea/catAx/title/layout/manualLayout
>>>> plotArea/dateAx/title/layout/manualLayout
>>>> plotArea/serAx/title/layout/manualLayout
>>>> plotArea/valAx/title/layout/manualLayout
>>>> plotArea/area3DChart/ser/trendline/trendlineLbl/layout/manualLayout
>>>> plotArea/areaChart/ser/trendline/trendlineLbl/layout/manualLayout
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here is my proposed text for addressing DR 15-0014.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Additions to 21.2.2.104 manualLayout (Manual Layout)
>>>>
>>>> If the parent element of the nearest ancestor layout element is a legend
>>>> or
>>>> plotArea element, either none or all of the h, w, x, and y elements
>>>> shall be specified.
>>>>
>>>> If the parent element of this manualLayout element is a dispUnitsLbl,
>>>> dLbl, title, or trendlineLbl element, either none or both of the x and
>>>> y elements shall be specified, and neither h nor y elements shall be
>>>> specified.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Additions to 21.2.2.89  layoutTarget (Layout Target)
>>>>
>>>> This element is allowed only when the parent element of the nearest
>>>> ancestor layout element is either  dispUnitsLbl, dLbl,
>>>> legend, title, or trendlineLbl element.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Additions to 21.2.2.232 x (Left)
>>>>
>>>> The value of the val attribute shall be smaller than or equal to 1.
>>>> Furthremore, this value shall be greater than or equal to 0 when the
>>>> value of the val attribute of a sibling xMode is edge, and shall be
>>>> greater than or equal to -1 when the value of the val attribute of a
>>>> sibling xMode is factor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Additions to 21.2.2.235 y (Top)
>>>>
>>>> The value of the val attribute shall be smaller than or equal to 1.
>>>> Furthremore, this value shall shall be greater than or equal to 0 when
>>>> the value of the val attribute of a sibling yMode is edge, and shall
>>>> be greater than or equal to -1 when the value of the val attribute of
>>>> a sibling yMode is factor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Additions to 21.2.2.229 w (Width)
>>>>
>>>> The value of the val attribute shall be small than or equal to 1 and
>>>> greater than or equal to 0.  Furthermore, the sume of this value and
>>>> the value of the val attribute of the sibling x element should be less
>>>> than or equal to 1.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Additions to 21.2.2.78 h (Height)
>>>>
>>>> The value of the val attribute shall be small than or equal to 1 and
>>>> greater than or equal to 0.  Furthermore, the sume of this value and
>>>> the value of the val attribute of the sibling y element should be less
>>>> than or equal to 1.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Makoto
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Praying for the victims of the Japan Tohoku earthquake
>>
>> Makoto
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Praying for the victims of the Japan Tohoku earthquake
>>
>> Makoto
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Praying for the victims of the Japan Tohoku earthquake
>
> Makoto