Question for Microsoft about MS-OE376

[caroline arms]

Aarti,

Thank you for this clarification.  I was misled by the DR's submitter
mentioning only [MS-OE376].  I might have found the other document if
there had been an obvious link from [MS-OE376].

    Thanks.  Caroline

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Aarti Nankani <anankani at microsoft.com> wrote:
> Hi Caroline,
>
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> The variations from the [MS-OE376] apply to the Office 2007 and 2010. When the ECMA 376 standard was replaced by the ISO/IEC 29500 (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee908652(v=office.12).aspx ), any variations common were copied over and then updated going forward in it for Office 2010, 2013 and 2016, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff534115(v=office.12).aspx.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Aarti
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: caroline arms [mailto:caroline.arms at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 6:35 AM
> To: Aarti Nankani <anankani at microsoft.com>
> Cc: SC 34 WG4 <e-SC34-WG4 at ecma-international.org>
> Subject: Question for Microsoft about MS-OE376
>
> Aarti,
>
> After the mention of addressing DR 16-0014 in part by referring to the "Normative Variations" in [MS-OE376], I was taking a look at the document in more detail.
>   https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmsdn.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Flibrary%2Fff531991(v%3Doffice.12).aspx&data=02%7C01%7Canankani%40microsoft.com%7Ca8c3afeafc33437ddb0b08d44d0af383%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636218156877504356&sdata=9Ai1oxIsfEN4Ame81SpvVTytEWOqW%2FeEJQ2qI0qWeEE%3D&reserved=0
> lists the variations, 1,913 of them.
>
> 1.3 Microsoft Implementations
>     https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmsdn.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Flibrary%2Fff530814(v%3Doffice.12).aspx&data=02%7C01%7Canankani%40microsoft.com%7Ca8c3afeafc33437ddb0b08d44d0af383%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636218156877504356&sdata=16dU0daCxQOyMqujB4Z9cRvrgVo%2FX4r3xIV0n7ohlqo%3D&reserved=0
> lists the Office products the document applies to.  The list does not include Office 2013 or Office 2016 products.
>
> Do the variations actually apply to the more recent versions as well?
> If so, it would be helpful to update this list.
>
> Or have some of the variations been eliminated in the more recent versions of Office or addressed in the new editions of ISO/IEC 29500 (aka Ecma 376)?  In which case it might be helpful to have a separate document that relates to a newer combination of Office and the spec.
>
> Thanks for any info on this.
>
> Caroline
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Rex Jaeschke <rex at rexjaeschke.com> wrote:
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>> From: Courtenay Inchbald [mailto:c at inchbald.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:04 PM
>> To: Aarti Nankani <Aarti.Nankani at microsoft.com>
>> Cc: Rex Jaeschke <rex at rexjaeschke.com>
>> Subject: Re: DR 16-0014 — WML: RSID Issues
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>> Dear Aarti,
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>> Thank you for your reply.
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>> The product team's reply is true for the purposes of running a Combine
>> or a Compare (although Word does not object to combining or comparing
>> documents with different rsidRoots). However, I am using RSIDs for a
>> different purpose in which RSIDs inherited from templates are
>> important. If the note's scope is limited to Merge and Compare, it
>> would be helpful to me to say so in ECMA-376.
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>> Word does not follow the rule in the rsid definition, repeated in the
>> note at the end of the definition, that RSIDs are generated from the
>> date. It would be helpful to me to add this exception to MS-OE376.
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>> Courtenay Inchbald  | T +44 20 8673 5640 | M +44 771 858 3535 | 54
>> Elmfield Road London SW17 8AL | c at inchbald.com
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>> On 19 October 2016 at 19:04, Aarti Nankani
>> <Aarti.Nankani at microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
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>> Hello,
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>> For DR 16-0014 — WML: RSID Issues Link
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>> We have the following response from the product team.
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>> If the RSIDRoot is different then you know nothing about the
>> relationship between the two documents.  Even if all of the other
>> RSID’s are the same you still know nothing.  It might be that Word
>> copies the RSID list from the template into documents based on the
>> template or it might not.  But it doesn’t matter.  By changing the
>> RSIDRoot, Word is telling you that it would not be fruitful to run a
>> merge between these two document assuming a common base.
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>> Does this help clarify your question?
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>> Thanks,
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>> Aarti
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