Question for Microsoft about MS-OE376

[Aarti Nankani]

Hi Caroline,


The variations from the [MS-OE376] apply to the Office 2007 and 2010. When the ECMA 376 standard was replaced by the ISO/IEC 29500 (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee908652(v=office.12).aspx ), any variations common were copied over and then updated going forward in it for Office 2010, 2013 and 2016, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff534115(v=office.12).aspx.


Thanks,
Aarti

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From: caroline arms [mailto:caroline.arms at gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 6:35 AM
To: Aarti Nankani <anankani at microsoft.com>
Cc: SC 34 WG4 <e-SC34-WG4 at ecma-international.org>
Subject: Question for Microsoft about MS-OE376

Aarti,

After the mention of addressing DR 16-0014 in part by referring to the "Normative Variations" in [MS-OE376], I was taking a look at the document in more detail.
  https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmsdn.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Flibrary%2Fff531991(v%3Doffice.12).aspx&data=02%7C01%7Canankani%40microsoft.com%7Ca8c3afeafc33437ddb0b08d44d0af383%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636218156877504356&sdata=9Ai1oxIsfEN4Ame81SpvVTytEWOqW%2FeEJQ2qI0qWeEE%3D&reserved=0
lists the variations, 1,913 of them.

1.3 Microsoft Implementations
    https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmsdn.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Flibrary%2Fff530814(v%3Doffice.12).aspx&data=02%7C01%7Canankani%40microsoft.com%7Ca8c3afeafc33437ddb0b08d44d0af383%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636218156877504356&sdata=16dU0daCxQOyMqujB4Z9cRvrgVo%2FX4r3xIV0n7ohlqo%3D&reserved=0
lists the Office products the document applies to.  The list does not include Office 2013 or Office 2016 products.

Do the variations actually apply to the more recent versions as well?
If so, it would be helpful to update this list.

Or have some of the variations been eliminated in the more recent versions of Office or addressed in the new editions of ISO/IEC 29500 (aka Ecma 376)?  In which case it might be helpful to have a separate document that relates to a newer combination of Office and the spec.

Thanks for any info on this.

Caroline


On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Rex Jaeschke <rex at rexjaeschke.com> wrote:
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> To: Aarti Nankani <Aarti.Nankani at microsoft.com>
> Cc: Rex Jaeschke <rex at rexjaeschke.com>
> Subject: Re: DR 16-0014 — WML: RSID Issues
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> Dear Aarti,
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> Thank you for your reply.
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> The product team's reply is true for the purposes of running a Combine 
> or a Compare (although Word does not object to combining or comparing 
> documents with different rsidRoots). However, I am using RSIDs for a 
> different purpose in which RSIDs inherited from templates are 
> important. If the note's scope is limited to Merge and Compare, it 
> would be helpful to me to say so in ECMA-376.
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> Word does not follow the rule in the rsid definition, repeated in the 
> note at the end of the definition, that RSIDs are generated from the 
> date. It would be helpful to me to add this exception to MS-OE376.
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> Courtenay Inchbald  | T +44 20 8673 5640 | M +44 771 858 3535 | 54 
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> On 19 October 2016 at 19:04, Aarti Nankani 
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> For DR 16-0014 — WML: RSID Issues Link
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> We have the following response from the product team.
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> If the RSIDRoot is different then you know nothing about the 
> relationship between the two documents.  Even if all of the other 
> RSID’s are the same you still know nothing.  It might be that Word 
> copies the RSID list from the template into documents based on the 
> template or it might not.  But it doesn’t matter.  By changing the 
> RSIDRoot, Word is telling you that it would not be fruitful to run a 
> merge between these two document assuming a common base.
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> Does this help clarify your question?
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