Verifying AMD1 against ODF 1.1 (with COR1+COR2)

Thu May 24 12:31:44 CEST 2012

Thanks, Dennis. The ODT versions are now both downloadable.

Regards,

Francis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamilton at acm.org]
> Sent: 24 May 2012 00:59
> To: francis at franciscave.com; SC34 WG6 Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Verifying AMD1 against ODF 1.1 (with COR1+COR2)
> 
> It seems I uploaded the ODF 1.1 Errata 01 WD04 PDF more than once and
> the ODT not at all.  I deleted that and uploaded the ODT.
> 
> There's another problem, I see.  The announcements of these uploads
> that go to the ODF TC list provided the public link in the past.  I see
> those notices are now providing the private link and I must manually
> provide public links. (I didn't notice because I have a cookie set and
> wasn't asked to log on.)
> 
> Here is the public link for the mocked errata document
> <http://www.oasis-
> open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=46064&wg_abbrev=office>
> and if you scroll down you can see the list of all available versions.
> 
> Here is the public link for the ODF 1.1 Errata 01 working drafts (with
> the ODT now):
> <http://www.oasis-
> open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=46096&wg_abbrev=office>
> Scroll down to see all of the current versions, whether this one,
> earlier, or later.
> My mistaken uploading of the PDF twice is now corrected.
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
> PS: I also wonder how long I have been using "Mailiing List" in the
> title for this list [;<).
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sc34wg6-bounces at vse.cz [mailto:sc34wg6-bounces at vse.cz] On Behalf
> Of Francis Cave
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 16:13
> To: 'SC34 WG6 Mailiing List '
> Subject: RE: Verifying AMD1 against ODF 1.1 (with COR1+COR2)
> 
> Hi Dennis
> 
> Am I right in thinking that currently the only versions of the WD04
> drafts that are available for public download are the PDF versions? I
> can only see .odt versions for earlier drafts.
> 
> I'm looking at:
> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?wg_abbrev=office.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Francis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sc34wg6-bounces at vse.cz [mailto:sc34wg6-bounces at vse.cz] On
> Behalf
> > Of Dennis E. Hamilton
> > Sent: 23 May 2012 23:47
> > To: 'SC34 WG6 Mailiing List '
> > Subject: Verifying AMD1 against ODF 1.1 (with COR1+COR2)
> >
> > Michiel,
> >
> > I offer this to help understanding of what the ODF 1.1 Mocked Errata
> > 01 document is, in contrast to how AMD1 applies to IS 26300:2006:
> >
> > The ODF 1.1 Mocked Errata 01 document with the indicated changes is
> > meant to be technically identical to IS 26300 with COR1, COR2, and
> > AMD1.  However those changes are against a version of ODF 1.0 that
> > became IS 26300:21006.
> >
> > The ODF 1.1 Mocked Errata 01 consists of changes to ODF 1.1 to
> achieve
> > the same alignment.
> >
> > For that reason, many changes introduced by AMD1 are not reflected in
> > WD04, because ODF 1.1 already had the text to which an AMD1 change
> > aligns.  When checking AMD1 instructions against the ODF 1.1 Mocked
> > Errata, you will usually see no corresponding change marking in the
> > Mocked Errata, but the text that is there is in alignment with the
> > AMD1 instructions.
> >
> > I believe the most important contribution that WG6 participants can
> > make is to confirm that the AMD1 instructions are implemented in ODF
> > 1.1 Mocked Errata 01.  There will be a few deviations, shown in the
> > Appendix of the WD04 ODF 1.1 Errata 01 document, not in the Mocked
> > Errata document.  There will also be a few more that take a little
> > more work to figure out.  These are not reflected in the WD04 draft
> yet.
> > They are all in Section 17 of the specification and in the
> References.
> > There will also be a few items in the WD04 drafts that are repair
> > defects in ODF 1.1 since AMD1 was produced.  These will all be
> > identified in an Appendix also.
> >
> >  - Dennis
> >
> > AFTERTHOUGHT
> >
> >  There is a way to make this work even better.  It just occurred to
> me.
> > There is no barrier to identifying, using a different form of markup,
> > where in an ODF 1.1 Mocked Errata 01 there is text that already
> agrees
> > with changes in AMD1.  This has nothing to do with the production of
> > ODF 1.1 Errata 01, something the ODF TC must attend to.  It would
> make
> > it easier for all of us to confirm that the technical convergence is
> > occurring.
> >
> > It would make it easier for observers to see that the corresponding
> > part of ODF 1.1 has been checked as being in agreement.
> >
> > If someone were to do this, even if severable people divided up AMD1
> > and did highlightings in the ODF 1.1 Mocked Errata 01 document, I am
> > willing to add those into a future draft (WD05 or WD06) by copy and
> > paste.
> >
> > My recommendation is that highlighting be used over those passages
> > that agree with the instructions in AMD1. Do not use font coloring,
> > because there may be need to overlap a place where font coloring and
> > underlines/strikethroughs have already been used.
> >
> > There is a highlight color named "Yellow 1" that is quite light and a
> > bit greenish on my monitor that seems to work well.
> >
> > If anyone undertakes this, it would be good to know what parts of
> AMD1
> > have been verified in this manner so that others don't duplicate the
> > same work.
> >
> > I am willing to provide this myself, but I would not do so until
> > *after* WD06 was available and the ODF TC could be continuing its
> part
> > of the effort in parallel.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: office at lists.oasis-open.org [mailto:office at lists.oasis-
> open.org]
> > On Behalf Of Dennis Hamilton
> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 22:36
> > To: office at lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: [office] Groups - ODF v1.1 Mocked Errata 01 WD04 (PDF)
> > uploaded
> >
> > Submitter's message
> > This is a PDF of the ODT document of the same name. Some may find
> this
> > more convenient for review and checking.
> > -- Mr. Dennis Hamilton
> > Document Name: ODF v1.1 Mocked Errata 01 WD04 (PDF)
> <http://www.oasis-
> > open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/document.php?document_id=46064>
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > Description
> > From the Document Description property:
> >
> > This is a modification of the ODF 1.1 OASIS Standard showing mocked
> > tracked-changes modifications in accordance with the corresponding
> > OASIS ODF 1.1 Errata 01 Working Draft.
> >
> > The Errata items from ODF 1.1 Errata 01 are introduced in this text
> as
> > simulated change tracking. The tracked-changes feature of the ODF
> > document is not used. The appearance of change tracking is by editing
> > of the text to have the appearance that tracked changes would have,
> if
> > carried out using the style of ODF 1.1 Errata 01.
> >
> > Working Draft 04 reflects transposition of IS 26300:2006/COR1 (ODF
> 1.0
> > Errata 01), COR2 (ODF 1.0 Errata 02), and IS 26300:2006/AMD1 changes
> > in which additional ODF 1.1 Errata were detected. This WD will only
> be
> > revised further only to correct errors in this transposition and for
> > additional post-AMD1 Errata items identified for the completed ODF
> 1.1
> > Errata 01.
> >
> > For further details, consult the latest ODF 1.1 Errata 01 Working
> > Draft editions. Those will identify the version of these mock
> > changed-tracked documents that correspond to them.
> > Download Latest Revision <http://www.oasis-
> >
> open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office/download.php/46064/latest/OpenDocum
> > e nt-v1.1-MockedErrata-wd04-2012-05-18-1517-dh.pdf>
> > Public Download Link <http://www.oasis-
> > open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=46064&wg_abbrev=office>
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > Submitter: Mr. Dennis Hamilton
> > Group: OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications
> > (OpenDocument) TC
> > Folder: Miscellaneous
> > Date submitted: 2012-05-20 22:35:33
> > Revision: 4
> >
> >
> >
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